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If you're an LIP DO NOT BOTHER!! You will NOT win!!THE most corrupt of systems!!! Where you can clearly WIN your case!! But lose due to not being a solicitor and not knowing the correct legal jargon!!... Leggi di più
Winning the tribunal but then having the award reduced by almost 100% because 1 person, the judge, decided that i might have got sacked anyway if a fair process was conducted. The point is a fair proc... Leggi di più
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The ET Adversarial System Is Not Fit For Purpose
An Adversarial “trial-by-combat” ET system is medieval and certainly not fit for purpose in establishing the facts and truth of any case. This only serves to encourage dishonesty, deception and resultant corruption at the expense of claimants and the tax payer. The ET system has nothing whatsoever to do with Justice.
The public cannot have any trust in the administration of justice by “judges” or the operation of any “law firms” when the truth is not pursued.
The fact that there is no duty on any “judge” to pursue the truth of any case; based on the facts wherever these may lead, results in a justice system which is “corrupt by design”.
When any “judge” decides the outcome of a case in the ET system, it is not based on the facts and truth of that case. The “successful” party to a case is solely decided by which "evidence" the “judge” prefers.
The opportunities for “law firms” to commit fraud, dishonesty, deception, collusion, and conspiracy in the “justice” system”, all aided by corrupt “judges”, is indeed vast.
This results in the tax payer and unfortunate claimants paying the price of such corruption.
Furthermore, there is no public record/transcript of the ET proceedings made available: to the detriment of Justice and all claimants.
Claimants are not allowed access to the "judge’s personal notes”. Whilst “judges” claim that their notes are a “public record”, neither the claimant, the media, or the public are allowed access to these notes. Therefore, this is not a public record.
This deliberate lack of any record of the proceedings allows "judges" to be dishonest in the withholding of evidence and producing a "judgment" which bears no resemblance to the actual ET proceedings. This results in all ET judgments being unlawful by default: due to the fact there is no record of the proceedings made available; consequently, it is impossible to bring any successful appeal in the EAT system.
The ET system operates as a "criminal cartel". It is so utterly corrupt; no “judge” in the so-called "Justice" system will ever address this crucial issue.
Until sufficient media attention brings the corrupt Tribunal system into public awareness, nothing will ever change.
I had to drop my claim despite of strong evidence
In 2017 I made a claim against a large social housing provider called Home Group. During my work there I realised I'm autistic which has been confirmed by NHS assessment - my employer was never involved in that but I informed them when I was diagnosed.
I experienced serious harassment at work that was never taken seriously so when I left I made ET claim. I was representing myself while Home Group was represented by Mr Paul Scope, a partner from Ward Hadaway.
In the response to my claim Home Group stated my autism diagnosis was private and they paid for it, which was total nonsense. It took me 3 days to realise it meant there were fabricated documents in my file, which would be enough as evidence for harassment. Unfortunately, when I realised the harassment was even worse than I thought my mental state deteriorated rapidly and I developed psychosis a few weeks later.
When I recovered from psychosis I started suffering serious panic attacks and didn't want to take part in preliminary hearing. I did point out to the tribunal that to prove I was a victim of harassment we only need to expose the truth about the fabricated documents, unfortunately the judge insisted on going a traditional route and as I result I realised I had to drop the claim as otherwise I'd never recover from the trauma.
Now, 2022, so a few years later, when I am well enough, I chose not to make another claim and tell my story through blogging.
They say I won..The winner is the barristers and employers.
I brought a simple claim against a greedy wealthy employer who used deception to steal my wages. They waged war on me in so many ways that it would be extremely shameful for normal people. The employer obtained a medical report on the day of receiving the claim notification alleging they had already lost sleep and appetite and that all of their family was mad. On the same day they apparently reported me to the Police for bringing a claim and the next day posed as a prospective employer to all of my former employers, yes to all of them and obtained references or information about me. They also helped another employer of mine (who I also noticed had underpaid me) in family court by lying about me and even the proceedings itself. In fact these people lied about everyone and everything including the judges, MoJ employees, the proceedings itself. I mean who lies to the Employment Appeal Tribunal about making reconsideration applications at the ET? These people did and I haven't even started. Anyway, the point is these things hardly made it into jdugemtns or were distorted heavily. These people even used a relative's death certificate in a bundle and alleged that I had called them murderers because I said it was disrespectful to use someone's death certificate in an employment tribunal. I don't even know why they put it in there.
Why all this bizarre conduct is omitted or distorted out of judgments? These people have a very good insurance. They call themselves 'high net' and the barristers made some good money while helping these abusive people bully me now for four years. The part time judges who are also part time barristers scratch each others' back. Its all about money, the legal profession's dinner to be exact. They don't use their full names, they work together.
Another important matter is the free advice agencies. Keep well away from them. They will withdraw your claim without you even knowing about it and later claim you consented to it. Those ones who help with Judicial mediation are there because without them the agreement is not legally binding. They will withhold advice and information from you, lie to you, bring your expectations down all for brownie points from judges for future promotion. Claimants are nothing but sacrificial lambs so this business can continue. I spent years trying to defend my career, finances and reputation because some rich banker stole my wages and I dared bring a claim against them. I recovered a fraction of my wages by spending thousands of pounds. Stealing someone's wages is a criminal offence but do you think they will ever dare refer a greedy wealthy banker to the magistrates? No, its so much easier and fun for our judges to help them wage war on the public.
As a last note; the system is not just discriminatory, it is harmful. It needs a good cleaning and some good record keeping.
ET system is not fit for purpose for…
ET system is not fit for purpose for Claimants / whistle-blowers especially if a litigant in person.
ET judges in my experience were heavily biased in favour of the Respondent. Judge stopped writing during claimants evidence when adverse data about Respondent presented. Claimant's evidence ignored even when it was clearly presented in written and during oral submission.
I felt there was also discrimination by the judges -
Judgement made in favour of the Respondent (Caucasian male witnesses) even though their evidence was mostly hearsay.
Claimants data and hard evidence simply ignored by the judge who made perverse judgement in my view. If the journalist was not present then one would not have guessed that the judgement was related to the same case as it was so heavily biased.
No transcripts of recordings provided.
ET system is not fit for purpose for whistleblowing cases - data suggests majority of claimants will lose. This is not a surprise given how biased the judges are in favour of the Respondent in my observation - this was also noted by all others who were present at the hearing.
Lets hope the EAT judges are of much higher calibre, fair and take 2 sides of the story in consideration; the claimants and the Respondent's.
We are in UK and has a Russian style of…
We are in UK and has a Russian style of employment tribunal: "Russian judges" and "Ukranian" claimants.
Is the Employment Tribunal system riddled with corruption?
I am a retired cardiologist and have been a supporter of whistleblowers in the NHS for several years. I am in touch with several WB who have suffered severe detriments at the hands of an ET Judge and the ET system. The common factor is the appalling treatment of WB, as if they were criminals. The original "protected disclosures" are buried in a mass of bureaucracy and not even discussed at the ET. I wager the ET Judge has no idea of their nature. The WB is punished by exclusion, restriction and eventually dismissal. Their careers are stolen from them just because they have raised, in good faith, concern. Families are disrupted, livelihoods destroyed. Some commit suicide. Their testimonies are trashed by lawyers for the Respondent and the ETJ. Personal insults are not uncommon. The system is rigged against the WB. Look at the stats! The ET proceedings are not recorded and it is a criminal offence for an attendee to do so without express permission which is rarely accorded (I know from a recent case where the ETJ would not allow a "prescribed person" - a journalist - to inspect the papers). The Judges' notes are private and not made available. One word that comes to mind is CORRUPTION!
Whistleblowing is a service to society but instead it has become criminalised! The whole ET system, the PID Act 1998, PDA 2014, HSCA 2008 (Regulation 20; Duty of Candour) and various other legislation relevant to WB is in dire need of serious reform.
There is no court Recording
There is no court Recording. The Judge can say demeaning things to litigant in person but no recording so no one can hold the Judge accountable. The Judge can omit evidence from the main judgement as if it was never presented or said. Again no one can do anything. Corruption at its best .
Requested information under FOI…
Requested information under FOI Legislation. Met with obfuscation and information request denials. Eventually received something that was partially useful.
Very poor in their compliance and the spirit of the FOI Act.
Even winning at the ET doesn't get you justice.
I won my case against a very large employer, and I know I was one of the lucky ones. Winning cost me 3 years of my life (stressful) and c£100k in legal fees that couldn't be claimed back from my employer.
My preliminary hearing was cancelled twice at short notice (meaning I incurred barrister's legal fees for nothing) and this was pre-Covid.
Judicial mediation was a farce that again cost me money for no benefit.
There was no recording of the proceedings so I had no record of what was said, but my employer did because they could afford to pay someone just to take notes, whereas I couldn't.
The system is broken and not fit for purpose. It needs a radical overhaul so that it is a level playing field.
I got some compensation, but I didn't get justice.
There is NO JUSTICE at the ET in its current form!
The ET Service IS WILFULLY DESTROYING the Economy, Enterprise, Careers, Lives (in many cases literally, there is no record of SUICIDES as a result of the MISCARRIAGES OF JUSTICE these very callous, abhorrent and self serving charlatans cause) as well as DESTROYING the Social Fabric of our Nation.
My personal experience of the ET Service is that it's CORRUPT TO THE VERY CORE.
The Judge in my case knew the Respondents Barrister and Solicitor very well and UNASHAMEDLY resorted to humorous exchanges from the outset.
The Judge then very BLATANTLY and UNASHAMEDLY ALLOWED no less than TWO fundamental MISCARRIAGES OF JUSTICE: -
1) Allowed all of the Respondents Witnesses who had yet to give evidence to be sat in the room, DESPITE my Barrister objecting to the INJUSTICE.
2) ALLOWED the remaining Witnesses to LIE, ALLOWING them to CHANGE their verbal EVIDENCE AGAINST their SWORN Witness Statements, using the line "I didn't mean to say X, I meant to say Y" to not only fit in with what they had heard from their fellow Senior Management colleagues (COLLUSION), but to also further CONTRADICT and DISCREDIT my evidence, which they were ALL allowed to hear before they had given theirs.
The judge also disregarded vast swathes of FACTUAL TRUTH and EVIDENCE that was SUBMITTED in Black and White which supported my case.
Another very CRUCIAL point to note from my case was that the Respondents Legal Team were handed a copy of my Hearing Bundle (Day 1) in front of and in plain sight of both the Judge and the rest of the Panel.
However, on the very last day, at the very last moment, the Respondents Legal Team claimed that they had never been given a copy of my Hearing Bundle; and yes, the Judge accepted that, DESPITE it having been handed over in front of her and her Panel.
The only recourse to such BLATANT MISCARRIAGES OF JUSTICE is for a Claimant to go to EAT, or for Judicial Review and you would need VERY VERY DEEP POCKETS for either of those possibilities.
Further, the most likely outcome of either would be that you would be struck down yet again.
It is very rare that anyone challenges this CRONY SYSTEM successfully and wins with any meaningful settlement.
The Barristers and Solicitors who are regulars on the circuit essentially feed the Judges and it's always in the Judges personal, financial as well as career elevating interest to back the Regular Barristers and Solicitors on the circuit, over any form of OATH or TRUE JUSTICE.
The Claimant is essentially a pawn, recruitment and marketing tool for the SYSTEM to use in order to establish new Corporate Clients and new income streams.
Basically, the Barristers and Solicitors will ALWAYS recommend allowing the case to go to the ET over making any JUST Out of Court Settlement, as they know what the outcome will be and CRUCIALLY they will earn their fees from the HUGELY LUCRATIVE Corporate Client regardless.
Secondly, once they have represented such a HUGELY LUCRATIVE Corporate Client and 'won' a case once, even out of VERY FOUL PLAY, they essentially have a client HOOKED for repeat future income, as does the Judge.
This, along with many other games, is what ET Judges are WILFULLY allowing to be played out in order to quite frankly DESTROY LIVES, CAREERS, FAMILIES AND the LIVES that depend on that of the one DESTROYED!!!
There are SO many other consequences and fallouts out of the single minded GREED of a few, such as Social Services, Benefits and Welfare, NHS Costs, Housing etc.
If there is NO FOUL PLAY WHATSOEVER, then what does the ET Service and all Judges involved, who are supposedly in their jobs to UPHOLD the LAW and dispense TRUE JUSTICE, have to hide by NOT ALLOWING TRANSCRIPTS to be handed to the Claimant, or RECORDINGS to be made in order for the Claimant to FAIRLY fight their case for TRUE JUSTICE.
Based on my own personal experience, I would say A WHOLE LOT TO HIDE, as it would basically bring a VERY RIGGED SYSTEM to its knees and SHAKE IT TO ITS VERY CORE!
Incidentally, might I add that there was also potential RACISM and PREJUDICE involved in my case, which nowadays is very conveniently labelled as 'Unconscious Bias', but when matters of BLATANT MISCARRIAGES OF JUSTICE have very obviously been pointed out and are DELIBERATELY IGNORED, they can no longer be classed as 'Unconscious Bias'.
At that point such actions become DELIBERATE ACTS.
No matter how much any single individual shares their experience, ONLY a TIDAL WAVE of MISCARRIAGES OF JUSTICE accounts will get any form of movement on this DECADES old CANCEROUS CORRUPT System that has had its CORROSIVE existence deliberately protected for far too long.
All I can say is SUBMIT your experience, SHARE the link, and TICK the BOX so that these CHARLATANS know that the TIDAL WAVE is building MOMENTUM!
I wish each and every VICTIM all the very best of luck!
Total betrayal of Human Rights - NO justice
Why is there not an option to give 0 stars?
ETs deserve ZERO stars.
The system is not fit for purpose. Most claimants never get as far as the ET, as they are financially crippled by a system that is heavily weighted in the employer's favour.
The whole process is designed to break a claimant, emotionally, physically and financially, leaving the employer triumphant, often only paying a token settlement to get rid of the problem and hide the wrongdoing with confidentiality clauses. There is no accountability as the claimant cannot afford the ridiculously long process and financial costs to fight employers with bottomless pockets and unlimited funding. It makes a complete joke of employee rights, which effectively don't exist.
Employment Tribunal hearings are a breach of Human Rights
Claimants who are representing themselves (LiP's) are not on an equal footing in the Employment Tribunal. In fact they are far from it. If a LiP is against a QC - how can this even possibly represent an Equality of Arms. Also there is no access to Open Justice as the hearings are not recorded. These are breaches of Article 6 the right to a fair trial.
From what I have witnessed and know from speaking to other Claimants, it is a flawed system from start to finish. Not only for LiP's but also represented Claimants complain about suffering the same injustices. Critical evidence is often withheld, claims watered down. Respondents and their army of expensive counsel are allowed to bully, threaten and intimidate Claimants in attempts to get them to withdraw their claims, with nothing said to them. It is an abuse of power. Perjury and false documents are ignored. Witness credibility is not examined properly or even at all. How can any witness statement be credible if it contains allegations without evidence to support it.
Secondly hearings themselves are not recorded. I was shocked when I found this out. It is shocking. No official court record. How does this support access to open justice. Access to a Judges notes are denied. So the only available record of the hearings are the Judgments.
Judgments that are factually incorrect. Evidence overlooked. Allegations suddenly become 'it happened' when they have never been investigated. Huge costs are then awarded without any high hurdle being jumped all in a bid to silence the Claimant and further punish them, and also to act as a deterrent to others speaking out.
EMPLOYMENT TRIBUNALS TRAMPLE HUMAN RIGHTS
I am a court reporter and witness the daily ‘INJUSTICES’ in EMPLOYMENT TRIBUNALS Claimants are being persecuted & abused, by QC’s & JUDGES…it really is inhumane to watch.
There are NO RECORDINGS of the proceedings, this is NOT OPEN JUSTICE so biased unlawful judgements are being handed down. WITHOUT RECORDS the claimant has no evidence for APPEAL and faces the TACTIC of JUDGES awarding MASSIVE COST AWARDS if they go ahead.
SILENCING is their AGENDA.
Utterly scandalous, undemocratic system
Utterly scandalous system where Judges have acted without proper scrutiny for decades as there is no court record. Yes really. No court transcript in 2022. The Judgment in my case bore zero reflection of the evidence that was presented. My barrister said the Judge was biased but advised me 'not to make a fuss' as the 'higher courts don't like it'. Claimants are ridiculed. Evidence is withheld with Judges ignoring this breach of court rules with impunity. Lives and reputations are destroyed with judgments forever a matter of public record. There is no equality of arms as the state pays the legal fees of companies but abandons claimants to their own devices, even if they are speaking up about wrongdoing. Claimants are intimidated with draconian cost threats and cost awards to silence them.
It is staggering that this abusive system has continued unchecked for decades - or perhaps it is not so shocking when you consider the vast sums of money lawyers make feeding on this system.
Employers rely on the fact that there is no equality of arms and the fact that it can take years before a claim is heard in court. In the meantime lives and careers are on hold at best and at worst they are destroyed. I have spoken to countless users of the ET system who have been traumatised by their experience. The system needs to be overhauled as it is abusive and not fit for purpose.
Futile adversarial hostile process
As an Litigant in Person I am in my +5th year of litigation against employer respondent and their legal firm. ET form T421 Your claim- what next 2018 it tells you 30 weeks to judgment issued. Following several preliminary hearings and being dealt with by multiple judges It took near a year to written judgment from final hearing and full of inconsistencies of evidence given. Because hearings are not recorded and transcribed appealing proves near impossible and its only strictly on POINTS OF LAW. Employers legal firm is treated 'superior' at all times and gets away with anything even destroying evidence or untrue witness statements to name a few. It is adversarial hostile process which if get cought in challenging many shortcomings will take all your time money energy for years to come. Not to mention injury to feelings and health overall due to institutional betrayal. Remedy if even won is a whole different story. Success rate in hearings is very low 1-5% for discrimination or whistleblowing cases. Currently over 8000 Respondents entered administration. The process appears biased to protect employers at all times serves this agenda.
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